The strongest position for the faith is at the 867 bookmark, where the Tibetan Empire has fractured and Bn kings of Guge & -Tsang hold large areas of the Tibetan plateau under their control. Havent seen many posts about reforming the Bon religion. I hope this tier list/guide was useful for you here reading this, despite its huge length. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Synergies, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/holy-fury-reformation-doctrine-list.1115209/. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. Rurik Rurikid, Petty King of Holmgarr in 867, is the historical founder of the Russian Empire. Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. + Bloodthirsty Gods, Seabound, Unrelenting. I admit I have not played Hellenic yet but it sounds awesome to me. Unrelenting also ignores unreformed pagan attrition but we can easily overcome it with tech later in game. I agree, meliorism should have notification. Its holy sites are scattered around the map but are mostly controlled by right religion, even in 1066 starting date. For every pagan religion there is a special Doctrine, unique only to them, that is most often than not more powerful than normal Doctrines. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Bear in mind that in 1066, Novgorod is Christian, and the Rurikid dynasty which holds it has multiple potential allies from other dynasty members. Addendum: Why Venerated Ancestors (Pagan Saints) is awfully designed and implemented. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Ancestor Worship. Cannot create Warrior Lodge if it does not already exist. Due to the Germanic faith's long and combative relationship with Catholic western Europe, there are a number of unique events between them. No female temple holders. 100% objectively correct scientific analysis of the civilized/barbaric nature of every religion and heresy's gameplay features in CK2. Sky Burials. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. And raised levies opinion penalty only really counts if you are at war all the time. For hellenic rome, warmongering, unrelenting, civilized and im not sure about the last one since the pontifex maximus was not very strong in his authority, having powers like fixing the calendar. Most pagans may raid neighboring provinces (and coastal provinces, if ships are available) for loot and prestige, even without a tribal government (which majority of the pagans are). +40% garrison size at county of this religion. For Power, Divine Marriage is average. Feudal unreformed pagans typically use gavelkind succession. Easily the best for power gaming, as you can directly target Great Holy Wars, and don't . For feudal pagans, reforming makes it possible to raise crown authority to any level. Temporal gives us nice hat upon reformation, and is part of synergy dogmatic, divine marriage which does not work atm. The unique traits of Autonomous are not that great, and GHWs are a must against large realms like the Ere. I used it in my game Tengri Horde Jurchen Reformed Bon Chinese Empire and just dominated silk road. I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. If you've ever wondered about in CK2, how do you change religion, now you know! Reformer gets a powerful artifact. This faith is exceptionally limited - it has all the disadvantages of unreformed paganism and none of the benefits, nor can it be reformed. Proselytizing: I will be honest, I never picked it. The Faith of Zun is a sun-worshiping pagan religion introduced in the Charlemagne expansion. Temporal rests power with you, and gives you bonuses, and you can . Standard stuff for defensive pagans. All Offensive pagans also gain a +30% bonus to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort holdings. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). Either Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle has a free holding, The count holding the chosen county is Germanic or Reformed Germanic, and accepts the creation. Most pagan faiths permit female temple holders regardless of gender law; exceptions are noted below. I rank Ancestor Veneration as tier 1 because of the eldership succesion it provides, sainthood is just nice bonus for it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. Pagans have great difficulty holding large realms together. Holy sites: Nishapur, Bost, Cairo, Kabul, and Multan. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. To debate theology, go elsewhere. I never tried Astrology and Haruspicy, I think they have the same amount of events as bloodthirsty gods, but I have yet to try them. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. Right now before I will be able to even convert rest of my provinces, they already do it.*. In early start dates Kiev is vulnerable to Tengri nomads (it borders the Magyars), so you may find that fabricating a claim to conquer Rugen is an easier way to get your third holy site. If you need Braunschweig to reform the Germanic faith it is best to conquer it in 769, while the Saxons still control it. JavaScript is disabled. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Out of all the Succession Doctrines, Meritocracy is probably the safest. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. Answered, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide, CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results. Rulers can choose to gain sympathy with another faith by decisions. Defensive attrition is a powerful deterrent in the early game. Reformed religions lose access to subjugation wars, one of the fastest ways for pagans to expand. I think the only time I mention something similar is switching to Germanic to use Prepared Invasion in the context of Daring. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. With Divine Marriage and Hierocratic leader as a vassal, you can repeatedly divorce and marry the same close relative, each time gaining free money or prestige, and piety. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Enatic-cognatic law is available. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Meritocracy with the best part of Warmongering nature? Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. Late to the party but I like this one; for the purpose of acquiring bloodlines. It is not normally playable (even with Ruler Designer), but can be played using mods or by exploiting loopholes. Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. Aztec religion has no special mechanics, having the usual set of Offensive Pagan mechanics. Best one in the loser tier. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? Meritocracy seems like the best non unique doctrine to me. I like Buddhism because the combination of concubinage and heir-nomination means you can end up with an unbroken line of Strong Genius rulers if you play the genetics game well, but unfortunately they're lousy at expansion. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Each pagan faith has one unique doctrine, which has features of two or more generic traits. Just know ahead of time that the owner of the title can't marry or be betrothed unless they have another title like count or something. They also gain access to Great Holy Wars if the Catholics have unlocked Crusades or the Muslims have unlocked Jihads. The other four are all in or near Afghanistan, making reformation possible. In later starts, expanding north becomes increasingly difficult and by 1066, many rulers of the area have converted to Islam. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Access to monastic feudal government with Tibeto-Burman culture group. Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. The Orthodox Pentarchy is also fun. For tribal pagans, reforming makes it easier to raise tribal organization. Gurus. Additionally, Unyielding is a bit of a jack of all trades if you want to blob, Proselyting is better for converting provinces. D. Nature: If you picked peaceful nature, I suggest you pick Autonomous leadership(since Peaceful doctrine anyway disables GHW). Pagans tend to be powerful in early years but weaken as time passes for several reasons: There is hope, however: should the Pagan faiths become reformed, the faith's survival is almost set in stone. Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! No male in the council. When you reform a pagan religion, and get high enough moral authority, other pagan empires might ask your help in converting them to your . Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. While three of the faith's holy sites are in Scandinavia, the other two are in mainland Europe and often held by strong Christian rulers. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. The religious head can decide upon death to. The principal ability of defensive pagans (Romuva, Slavic, Suomenusko & African) is a tremendous boost in combat when fighting on home ground. Which religion is best? Germanic faith is the faith of Scandinavian & Saxon people, worshiping deities like Odin/Wotan. In fact I was really surprised they didn't do anything with Manichaeanism in HL. Concubines not allowed. Note that reformed pagans may not send missionaries, the only organized religion group with this distinction. but i'm talking about game mechanics here, compared to Catholicism, Orthodoxy in-game has nothing unique really, hell, it didn't even have it's own Holy Order till recently. Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. Such penalties usually function to prevent any rival faith from taking their lands in spite of being relatively weak and of a rival faith that normally could be easily holy warred. For the reference https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation, Nature: Two tiers here. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. You want to conquer followers of the Cross/Crescent anyways. Penalties "Why would you want infidels to tolerate you? I'd suggest backing up a copy of your save game at the point where you can reform the religion and then trying a few combinations. Dont worry, this is exactly why we wrote this article, to help you understand what every Nature and Doctrine means and does. There are provinces with Bn faith in Tibet throughout the game but last playable rulers vanish in 1251, leaving Buddhists ruling Tibet. Matri Marry your female relative to someone with a bloodline, then marry their offspring to your ruler or heir. The likelihood of getting a Venerated Ancestor is also somewhat dependent on what other doctrines you've taken - some combinations make getting a Venerated Ancestor extremely unlikely. Hi, before Holy Fury release I posted my tier list for pagan doctrines, https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9sfvtr/my_holy_fury_reformation_doctrine_tier_list/. What, in your opinion, is the best aim training? The best Doctrines by far are the two "Clans" option with the slight edge to Enatic. Incompatible with Eternal Riders and Invaders doctrines. Crusader Kings II. PegaluxX. I have an Ironman 867 Guge game on the verge of reforming the religion. Incompatible with Sons Of Ragnarok and Invaders doctrines. Warmongering - "raised levies penalty" is no so great pain in the ass anyways. Messalianism because it's the single most outlandish religion in the game. No female temple holders. This attrition only applies in provinces of the same religion as their ruler, so Germanic pagans won't lower their enemies' supply limits in Slavic territory. By choosing to reform your pagan religion, you will lose all the old advantages such as attrition for enemies and subjugation wars, but gain all the bonuses of a civilized nation. With Holy Fury, the Hellenic and Bn faiths can be reformed. If a king of a faith stays true to the old ways, and many vassals convert to the new religion, this can cause tremendous upheaval in a nation, and lead to multiple, simultaneous and devastating deep revolts. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (eg Hellenic). That deserves recognition. You must log in or register to reply here. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Depending on the spread of the faith before reformation, heresy may or may not become a major issue. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. Once that is done, you will also need 750 piety and 50% moral authority to start the process. The homeland attrition penalty does apply to reformed pagans of another faith, but the "old faith" heresies have no such protection against the reformed churches of their specific branch of paganism. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. BTW, excommunications make king viceroys actually viable and not a PITA: you can excommunicate, arrest and execute a king viceroy whenever you like it, and appoint a new one. Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. Except if you have founded bloodines with male rulers already. Tier 1: No changes here from previous list. Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Civilized already removes raised levies penalties to vassal opinion, and Hellenic can raid already. In addition, all pagan faiths can be reformed. (Especially after mass conversions.). Choosing you own heir and not receiving penalty opinion for raised levies it too good to pass up. There are better options for mix-maxing/efficient play. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. Reforming the religion removes these restrictions, allowing tribal rulers to use gavelkind and allowing feudal rulers to use primogeniture. I think that'd be the best. Lose piety when at war against faithful.Penalty to Spymaster steal technology. Also without Proselytizing my own vassals never bothered to spread their own religion. No female temple holders. PegaluxX. (AI rulers are likely to accept the reformed religion if cynical, same dynasty as the reformer, or under control of a reformed ruler.) They must switch to elective gavelkind if they wish to declare Subjugation or Tribal Invasion wars. I always found piety to be very uselful here, excommunication is a very powerful tool if you use it strategically. A pagan start that allows to make a kingdom and to reform faith in the shortest time, preferably, before the first succession and loss of titles. Full status of woman law is enforced. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, How much of a direct gameplay advantage it gives (Power), Totem Guardians (African) - A for Power, A for Fun, Harmonious (Bon) A for Power, B for Fun, Civilized (Hellenic) A for Power, B- For Fun, Divine Marriage B- for Power, Meme for Fun, Sons of Ragnarok (Germanic) B+ for Power, B for Fun, Dawnbreakers (Zun) B+ for Power, Meme for Fun, Eternal Riders (Tengri) C- for Power, C for Fun, Invaders (Aztec) C+ for Power, B- for Fun, Defenders of Dievas (Romuva) Absolutely Useless. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. Pagans being attacked in a holy war by Christians or Muslims may choose to save their realms and end the war by accepting the faith of the invaders. Doubles the pool for good commanders and councillors and as a bonus you can give consorts to your daughters. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. Knowing that Civilized is the best "peaceful" doctrine, pair that with stability, temporal so you decide your own holy wars and get a permanent artifact and set it to proselytize so that every follower of your religious works to eliminate religious bordergore. Ancestor Worship decision available. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. Reformer becomes the first religious head. And isn't Civilized like a dream? While its holy sites are in locations which are easily taken, most of them lack a temple holding which means holy sites only give half of the usual Moral Authority, forcing Tengri rulers to either build temples or take control of all holy sites. They then become the "Reformed" version. You are using an out of date browser. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug). Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. Full status of woman law is enforced. Intermarry Eastern group, Zoroastrian group. When the religion is reformed, rulers of the faith may choose to accept or reject the new order of things. All holders of holdings do not have to be Muslim for this tax to apply the top ruler being it is enghout. Enatic-cognatic law is available. Tax on subjects of different religious groups is allowed. Here is an extensive CK2 guide about Pagan Reformation, where we explain all Natures, Doctrines, and Leadership options. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. I used autonomous most often which gives some flat bonuses. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. If dawnbreakers would have divine marriage paired with something else than polygamy it would be tier 1. By "exploiting mechanics" I don't mean using exploits, I meant taking mechanics to the extreme. As such, it is best used when the player is ready for their nation to "mature" from aggressive expansion against small targets to needing to maintain an empire. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? Eldership succession law is allowed. Can't agree with stability doctrine, tech and artifacts lower short reign penalty so it is not worth to take it, and as I said from my experience it is easy to overcome. using concubines). Reformed pagans no longer get a defense attrition bonus, and will incur attrition in the territory of unreformed pagans, except those who follow the old form of their own religion. that's why those two are different Branches of Christianity, there's big enough difference on some of the theological matters. Kiev in 769 is notably a start whose default ruler, Dobrava Turov, is a woman. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Playing from this start is more difficult, as Kiev is bordered to the south by the Tengri Khaganate of Magyars. And the Indian religions. Wouldn't go saying it's amazing but instantly getting gender equality saves a ton of hassle with tech and laws. Depends on what you want. Holy sites: Balkh, Gilgit, Lhasa, Purang and Khotan. Also for flavour. It says we can spend piety to improve curtier abilities but we can do it once per 5 years and can improve stat for one point. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. Independent lieges of this religion can construct, Religion is resistant to proselytizing + Stability, Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full + Stability, Religion is resistant to proselytizing. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. True, but I wanted to avoid cheese/gamey mechanics when making this tierlist. The Zunists are unique in that they are somewhat of a hybrid of the Offensive and Defensive; generic Paganism grants no bonuses. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Hellenic paganism was the faith of the Greco-Roman world before the rise of Christianity. AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. Large nomadic realms continue to grow in strength as long as the khans continuously increase the number of empty holding slots they control. It has synergy with enatic/agnatic or meritocracy, after 9 successful boosts for close family relative we get a bloodline. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. This shows another bonus from raiding culture; with the combination of Equality and concubinage, kidnapping male princes also allows for strong claims for heirs on raided lands, and the prestige of having noble male consorts for female rulers. However, stability is very low, and you have little control over your realm. So if you like seeing dukes in the middle of other kingdoms take distant kingdoms and break out of their vassal king resulting in non stop dejure wars and infighting, then sure prepared invasions are for you (masochist). Romuva is the faith of the peoples on the east coast of the Baltic Sea, worshiping such deities as Dievas, Perkunas, and Laima. Our domain can only grow overtime and we can develop our provinces without fear of it being lost to gavelkind. Unrelenting cannot be picked with unyielding, and it cancels out any unreformed levy or troops bonus. Btw, is there any reason NOT to take unyelding? Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . being able to roleplay as discount Vikings as any pagan religion can be fun, and using rivers is always an interesting mechanic. Strangely there are no upsides to Shia or Ibadi. Hinduism is solid with the early Holy Order, morale buff, patron deities and raiding but they lack any inheritance/realm management perks. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. I haven't tried Perun+Daring, I wonder if it would give pirate trait. Jainism without doubt. However, it only applies to the homeland, and pagans have difficulty converting provinces due to low. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. Orthodox. GHWs are especially useful for Germanic Fylkirs, who can select the target and timing of the attack. Well. Ruler does not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. Now that you have no fast way to expand through pagan lands, you may wish to convert to a culture that allows use of the Tribal Invasion CB, so you can quickly expand through infidel lands instead. Tribal vassals who follow in reformation will no longer have opinion penalties for higher levels of tribal organization, no longer faction to lower tribal organization, and will usually vote in favor of increasing tribal organization. They also have access to two special casus belli: Most pagans have defensive attrition, massively reducing the supply limit for non-pagans invading their homeland. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. Some of them are stronger than the regular doctrines. However, the Sons of Abraham demon child event chain will create Zunist "witches", who can be married matrilineally or assigned as guardians to children with the Faith or Heritage focus. Partially redundant with Children of Perun doctrine. In game terms, all pagan religions fall into one of two broad groups, with a few exceptions - the offensively-oriented Germanic, Hellenic (Greco-Roman), Tengri and Aztec faiths, and the defensively-oriented Romuva (Baltic), Slavic, Suomenusko (Finnish), African, and Bn (Tibetan) faiths. 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