Don't know if it fits the theme of the deck, but it's an absolute pet card. It doesn't work at all. Hey all, my friend recently built an Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck and weve been struggling to understand the ruling. In this deck tech I've tried a taste of all three.Pat. 1x Crumbling Necropolis. How long can I stop the game like this, and are there any penalties I would suffer under the rules? You can't use Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) to keep "until end of turn" or "this turn" effects running after the current turn is over. by darrenhabib 2 years ago, Post Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. by DavidBray, Obeka, Temporal Mistress #EDH #Commander #MTGWe celebrate ONE YEAR of tune-ups with this patron-submitted list led by Obeka, Brute Chronologist! yeaGO i was thinking for commander wise Crosis, the Purger, Lord Xander, the Collector,Marchesa, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Nicol Bolas, the Ravager I activate Aphetto Alchemist targeting itself and Obeka. During an opponent's draw step, I tap Obeka and ask if they want to end their turn. obeka, brute chronologist interaction Asked by The_Overlord_666 1 year ago. If Obeka, Brute Chronologist is used to end the turn before an end step starts the triggers will trigger on the next turn's end step. Obeka has been the hardest nut for me to crack deck wise. Rulings. 11/10/2020: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Obeka, Brute Chronologist As Commander As Card Average Deck Decks Combos Obeka, Brute Chronologist (Card) $0.35 $0.25 0.29 TIX In 3180 decks 1% of 232421 decks Navigation Aetherhub Archidekt Deckstats Gatherer Moxfield MTGGoldfish MTGStocks Scryfall Average Type Distribution Contact | 108.1). before the end step, the turn will move to the cleanup step (skipping any phases and steps in between, including end steps) (C.R. As with "beginning of the next end step" abilities, if you end the turn with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) while a "beginning of the next cleanup step" ability is on the stack, that ability will be exiled and won't trigger again. As the active player you do your combo to untap and trigger it again. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. It was enjoyable to learn the true back story behind Feldon. Normally, players don't get to do anything in the Cleanup Step, but if something triggers or if a state-based action does something in the Cleanup Step, players do get priority. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. Should you stop buying MtG products? Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! If someone did this to me in a game, I'd just say no x infinity so at most itd result in a draw. by RowanKeltizar 2 years ago, Post Like you, I have wanted to build around this card since I first saw it, but never as the commander. RULINGS. 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If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. you're trying to force a different outcome via infinite loop. First list: https://archidekt.com/decks/2320784#U.. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} Just to make it clear exactly when you should be using Obeka it's important to know when effects happen. Wouldn't this trigger at every end step? Okay, hear me out, but what if you could steal someone's big, bad creature, forever, for just three mana*? Terms of Use | ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} Login or Register to hide these ads. Discord Server | Which is why "the next end step" works, because when your opponent ends their turn its technically the turn after the "next end of turn" and doesn't trigger. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} Rule juggling is fun but you're overlooking other rules. So if you act of treason something and skip your end step, you do get to keep it, but at the end of your next opponents turn the effect triggers again since it's unresolved and open/active. From what I understand, end step effects go on the stack and can be canceled by ending the turn with Obeka, but until end of turn effects do not go on the stack and happen with the cleanup step, therefore they cannot be interacted with. This site 2023 TappedOut.net, LLC : The player whose turn it is may end the turn. At any point in the game, the player with priority may suggest a shortcut by describing a sequence of game choices, for all players, that may be legally taken based on the current game state and the predictable results of the sequence of choices. Card Kingdom Price From $0.22. When it comes to Obeka (and [[Sundial of the Infinite]]), there is a difference between "until end of turn" and "at the beginning of the next end step". EDIT (Oct. 24, 2022): Strike out special case for Delina, according to changes in Oracle text. 30-day money back guarantee. 719.1b), but it will still trigger again at the next appropriate moment (C.R. I lay plans and strategies while bike riding to my studio. Ending the turn skips directly to the cleanup step of the turn. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. I just realized that your Avatar "Kaho, Minamo Historian" goes infinite for 6 mana with Finale Fortune o.O, Wish we could find room for Glorious End as well. Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. We are mainly confused about at the next end step and until end of turn effects. You can't "but I only did one then you chose no so I do it again" because now you're looping twice to the same board state as a result of the Obeka activation resolution, which is strictly against the rules. Switch . Obeka, Brute Chronologist + Final Fortune + Elite Arcanist/Isochron Scepter = Infinite turns lol. So, if I may ask, say I want to Final Fortune for an extra turn but also get bonus mana from Thawing Glaciers during that extra turn. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} The opponent can't choose more No than you can choose Untap. Thus, you can't use Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) to keep "until end of turn" or "this turn" effects running after the current turn is over. If this happens, players will have a chance to cast spells and activate abilities, then there will be another cleanup step before the turn is over.". I untap and retap Obeka with the same question. Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). Has Purphoros been working well for you? Because the trigger for the token destruction is for combat steps only after the original creature (or copies) attacked. by darrenhabib 1 year ago. ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{background-color:#fff;box-shadow:0 0 0 1px rgba(0,0,0,.1),0 2px 3px 0 rgba(0,0,0,.2);transition:left .15s linear;border-radius:57%;width:57%}._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS:after{content:"";padding-top:100%;display:block}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIconFaded10);border:2px solid transparent;border-radius:100px;cursor:pointer;position:relative;width:35px;transition:border-color .15s linear,background-color .15s linear}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-active)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-buttonAlpha10)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1asGWL2_XadHoBuUlNArOq{border-width:2.25px;height:24px;width:37.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1asGWL2_XadHoBuUlNArOq ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:19.5px;width:19.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1hku5xiXsbqzLmszstPyR3{border-width:3px;height:32px;width:50px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1hku5xiXsbqzLmszstPyR3 ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:26px;width:26px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._10hZCcuqkss2sf5UbBMCSD{border-width:3.75px;height:40px;width:62.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._10hZCcuqkss2sf5UbBMCSD ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:32.5px;width:32.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1fCdbQCDv6tiX242k80-LO{border-width:4.5px;height:48px;width:75px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1fCdbQCDv6tiX242k80-LO ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:39px;width:39px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._2Jp5Pv4tgpAsTcnUzTsXgO{border-width:5.25px;height:56px;width:87.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._2Jp5Pv4tgpAsTcnUzTsXgO ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:45.5px;width:45.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI{-ms-flex-pack:end;justify-content:flex-end;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-active)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{cursor:default}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{box-shadow:none}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-buttonAlpha10)} Obeka, Brute Chronologist, illustrated by Jesper Ejsing. [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]]; [[Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker]]. If you run Obeka, Brute Chronologist you can play stuff like Goryo's Vengeance, and she stops eot sacrifices. <i>(Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. OP's wrong about how multi-player loops function, though. Obeka, Brute Chronologist - All good things must come to an END. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. A trigger waiting for "the beginning of the next end step" would trigger on the next turn's End Step (assuming it happens, your opponent might have an Obeka too). 603.7b; see also [[Bonus Round]] and [[Glimpse of Nature]]). Commander Color Restriction Rules w/ Component Pouch. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. This trigger looks for the next end step to happen and triggers at that time. They naturally refuse. 514.2). Per the rules you linked: If two or more players are involved in maintaining a loop within a turn, each player in turn order chooses a number of iterations to perform. 1x. Feeds | Here is how it would work. Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Effects that last until the end of a turn end during the cleanup step of that turn. Then I talk about the interaction with extra turn cards in the "Extra turns" section. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn. If I put a +1/+1 counter on a creature that has a -1/- Can i exile my commander from the graveyard into the Press J to jump to the feed. This site is unaffiliated. I was looking at your land count and average Mana Value and I think you probably are running too few lands at this point, it's very tempting to cut them, but 30 is probably too few for a MV that is over 2.5. This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. This sounds wild, and awful to play against. Sometimes a loop can be fragmented, meaning that each player involved in the loop performs an independent action that results in the same game state being reached multiple times. But with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite), you can "cancel" certain abilities that say "at the beginning of the next end step" or "at end of combat", if you end the turn at the right moment. EDH decks and themes I'm currently playing! Should I enter the end phase, then use Obeka to exile the "you lose the game" ability, then during the cleanup step Thawing Glaciers would trigger, and I would need to either use a Sundial of the Infinite, or untap Obeka with a spell or ability and use her ability again? The entire reason Obeka has 'may' in the card text is to prevent this. Pssh, the best thing about this card is the fact that it turns. In the future, you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question. That way the trigger has gone off and will not trigger again at a later end step. Based on CR 722.2a. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} DMCA requests | Because otherwise it would trigger again on the combat phase of the next player, wouldn't it? Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.) The end state has Obeka tapped. This doesn't work either because you are not at the same game state after your opponent decides to not end the turn. Contact | The game advances through the lowest number of iterations chosen and the player who chose that number receives priority. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). 11/10/2020: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Commander / EDH Multiplayer Tokens UBR (Grixis) Cobara86. Obeka, Brute Chronologist "brute" forcing your opponents to end their turns with loops After commander legends I made an Obeka EDH list. Steal shit, don't give it back. 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