2021. By Plane and Pilot Updated August 12, 2021 Save Article. At that point, the pilot would be using external visual references or at least trying to. Absolutely correct, our operation needed to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting and training. I only have about 8,000 hours behind PT engines, so what do I know? The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop.". That building and stack was constructed relatively recently. From an Engineers perspective, looking at Google Earth Pro, the runway centerline runs within 5 feet or so from the stack that looks to have been struck by the left wing of the aircraft. The "what happened" seems evident, but "why it happened" is unknown and will likely remain that way. To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? A non-precision step down IFR approach to minimums is one of the hardest things any Pilot is ever called upon to do. Joseph Crenshaw, 45, his wife Jennifer, 43, their son Jacob, 16, and daughter Jillian, 14, died when their Cessna 210 'came apart' in the air over Alabama on Saturday. Anonymous Wednesday, December 21, . The survey segment of the flight commenced about 14 km to the northwest of the airport and was conducted at a height of about 200 ft above . A quick but not exhaustive search finds this example guidance from a past advisory circular regarding the use of a 24-hour medium intensity flashing white light system:"not recommended on structures within 3 nautical miles of an airport. Brittney was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and served a mission in Birmingham, England from 2015-2017. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. Accident investigation report completed and information captured. E.g. . Snow was observed falling. Operate below MDA at your own risk.. For one ADSB tracks are not reliable, for two how incompetent of .gov to put a stack right on short final. In the publication it states that if an airplane was manufactured without shoulder harnesses, the owner should obtain a kit to install them from the manufacturer or manufacturer's local representative. Perhaps he could have dumped full flaps and ground effected to just clear over the retreating water waves which is what they hit to flip over. We are all guessing. With such small margins, even little differences count. However, I do not live out there and haven't seen the stack in person.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGAnonymous Said: "I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. I remember reading a story about a pilot who ditched in the ocean just off shore from a beach, maybe 20-30 yards out, and walked away uninjured. They just list basic facts and observations with occasional cursory analysis. I have tried to comprehend the possible reasons for a Caravan to be flying below 90 knots and descending close to 900 feet per minute (per ADS-B/FlightAware) dangerously below the published Minimum Descent Altitude (MDA) on the RNAV/LNAV GPS Runway 20 approach to Burley, Idaho (KBYI)Airport. This tragic accident highlights the risk of anyone flying in a single engine aircraft over areas with minimal forced landing space. @billy - The accident pilot was initially flying a 4.1 descent angle leaving JAMID, with 1.6 NM remaining to the RW20 threshold. Average descent angle was 9.2 degrees, or a loss of 350' in those last seconds, but the approach seemed unstable from JAMID. Weather, 20 minutes before incident, was 1 mile, light snow, broken at 2300, overcast at 2800. Even if the tower and building wasn't there and the Bonneville salt flats was in front of the plane she would be touching down in the next 6 seconds. I read all the comments. As seen in many urban locations, local city zoning permits industry to build around urban airports. LINKS:Kathryns Report: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.htmlAviation Safety Network: https://aviation-safety.net/. Sunrise was 6:56. However, this data alone does not provide the basis for a determination regarding the. Showing those documents as full sheet images before zooming in to a cropped section would be best. The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop. You're missing his point entirely. All messages must be civil in tone; if critical, must be constructive. The criticism of the deceased pilot rages on well before the preliminary is released and facts are obtained, and usually before the deceased has even been buried. I can attest to having my aircraft rocked by turbulence simply from the warm air currents gently rising from a dark field, so I have no doubt that a concentrated column of moist hot air being spewed out of a row of smokestacks could have a very serious effect on a light aircraft. The data point location after which the 4.1 descent angle increased to 6.5 is one statute mile from the threshold.The initial 4.1 descent angle compares favorably with the 3.8 to 3.9 angle the company's substitute pilot flew in VFR conditions from JAMID all the way to 7th Avenue just two days after the accident, but a notable difference is that the accident pilot's 88 knots airspeed was 40 knots slower while experiencing mist and light snow. Carrying that angle across the river and over to the factory she should have been approximately 230 feet above the ground and 160 feet above those stacks. There is a LOT of detail logged in the G1000 system onboard these aircraft. Main point is that a smokestack directly below and that close to the approach path is a really bad idea whether it's 61' or 109' because there's an inadequate safety factor. Oh boy Couple years ago we hired an attractive young lady, a flight instructor what does her looks have to do with being a pilot? The airport cannot expand because it is landlocked between the Snake River and train tracks. For a moment let's adjust your pass-over clearance results of 63' and 73' up by that extra 16 feet to get 79' and 89' pass-over clearances while pretending that the FAA database numbers are spot on (read on for the surprise! AD Compliance Report April 2022. Sunrise was at 6:56.She would have been accustomed to crossing the waterway with the railroad bridge in view on the right side during the last moments in the normal approach to the RW20 threshold.There is nothing to see that is even remotely similar to the waterway and RR bridge combination before reaching the tater plant. The wreckage will be recovered on Wednesday, June 8. (ADS-B granularity in increments of 25 feet altitude, with rounding and accuracy limitations in FlightAware's processed data reduces precision, but attempting to compensate each point for local pressure variation from 29.92 is eliminated by this technique. Would the FAA have allowed the company to mount a strobe on the top of that stack, or would it have interfered with the sight picture for a pilot on the glideslope for a landing? That's a stark contrast not likely to be mistaken for anything else. The building/towers are a red herring, imho.Loved ones can't blame the person they just lost. Newer editions of the Cessna Caravan contain updated glass instrumentation with Garmin G600 or G1000 systems and weeping wing TKS ice prevention systems.Please do not assume that classic rookie pilot mistakes are at play here. 7. Given the wing spans of aircraft, the rising steam, and a gusty day, 100ft is much too little. Thus, the top of the stack would be 120ft AGL relative to the runway threshold, due to the first assumption. The last "reliable" data point on ADS-B was @ 08:32:25 at an altitude of 4150' MSL and a position of 42.5520,-113.7592 which is almost directly at the stack. "Nothing new under the sun." The only way to hit the obstacles is to be WAY low on the approach. 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) How could anyone be up here, see Gods creation, and doubt His love? she had asked. It's just a matter of how priorities are arranged. About 0832:25, the airplane came into viewAccording to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, . 1 - 24. But looking northeast toward the plant from the end of RWY20, the elevation difference on the opposite bank appears to be a lot more than 4 feet. they should be required to fly out to these locations on days like this once in a while for the education needed to make safer decisions on where these pilots must go risk their lives every day. Take this for what it is - some old pilot's opinion. Cessna 210-5 (205), N8149Z: Fatal accident occurred December 04, 2022 near Cleburne Regional Airport (KCPT), Johnson County, Texas . From the approach plate "RNAV (GPS) RWY 20 Burley Muni BYI": The approach path angle is 3.75 degrees. Coming in hot and high is a poor practice in any airplane; in a jet, it can eat up an awful lot of runway. Don't forget that NOTAMs should not be permanent notations but rather temporary fixes or transient notifications until the appropriate official guidance can be updated. What are you running with? Osha's 42 inch guardrail standard x 20 comes out to 70 feet.This was the image used:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99Door opening height to clear semi trucks are 14 feet. Brittney often told those who had the privilege of flying with her that she never felt closer to heaven than she did when flying. The aircraft left quite an impressive impact crater, and both people aboard are presumed dead. Please keep in mind, comments on tragedies like these sometimes come from, and are seen by, people who knew them. "That's what you get if capitalism runs unchecked and controls every aspect of public life: commercials, banalities and emotions instead of reason, science and art that make life so much fuller. October 10, 2021 9:53am. Here's a link to the Aviation Safety Network report on the crash near Pine Grove, Oregon, USA on 09 January, 2021. / 45.4288; 9.2545. Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in dispatcher's mind.- Possible bias factors:5. At that point, runway or runway lighting were visible but not necessarily the thin grey stack in between. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". Or maybe the pilot went around on the first pass *because* they were carrying too much speed. On 3 October 2021, a Romanian private plane crashed into a building in San Donato Milanese, Lombardy, Italy. Lack of hours? Witnesses on the ground said the plane's wings came off mid-air in high winds before a shower of debris fell from the sky. There is a platform after the first section of ladder where you have to walk over to get to the second section, so that is not a broken ladder, it is the design in the ladder system. The obstacle she hit was less than half a mile from the runway and at or below 100 AGL, so unless you think the weather somehow magically decreased to 200 ft ceilings and half a mile vis, she definitely had the runway in sight well before she hit the obstacles, so "busting minimums" was not a factor.If you are focused on approaching a short runway, there is no VSGI to guide you on the required steep non-standard descent angle, it can be easy to miss the grey colored obstacles that don't stand out. https://registry.faa.gov/N7181AA small plane crashed at the Watsonville Municipal Airport on Sunday afternoon. The obstruction database tolerance codes need to be audited in every record to see if declared accuracy limits are being applied to obstructions in approach and departure surface profiles or just the nominal stated elevations are being used.For convenience, here is the decoder link again, with info on decoding the data record starting on the readme pdf's page 5:https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/dof/media/DOF_README_09-03-2019.pdf. A National Transportation Safety Board investigator arrived on the scene on Tuesday. lapsed pilots aopa. There is no "glidepath", "decision altitude", "needles" (plural), or any sort of vertical guidance at all. you think it's unreasonable for a pilot to descend to a standard 3.0 degree glidepath once they have the runway in sight?When the glidepath specified on the approach is 3.75 degrees, yes, yes I do. The pilots forward view would be very limited almost nothing. He then botched the landing by coming up short in the surf. Touchdown elevation is 4,152'. The altimeter setting at the destination airport was 29.97, so the pressure altitude correction would be +50 feet, which puts the aircraft right at the expected altitude of 7,000 feet, not 50 feet too low as you surmised.3. Prior to that, the 6,950' altitude transmitted while going back for the second attempt adjusts to the expected 7,000' with the +50' compensation. Here is street view of the one hit AND the group of six:https://goo.gl/maps/WeoRjbGZmZXoMTCc7This photo of the six is from the 2018 Town News article:https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/magicvalley.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/c2/bc27f097-bd84-53a5-aeb6-2da8c0892dd7/5a7a51136f27f.image.jpg?resize=785%2C500The 2018 Town News article itself:https://magicvalley.com/gem-state-processing-provides-jobs-inclusive-plant-culture/article_94ba4fdd-39fa-5288-9562-597369987652.htmlThose stacks have been on the roof at least four years. He owns the minds of those fans and is working toward harvesting their donations in the times ahead. (Which is common in CFIT accidents non precision approaches). Among the victims were American singer and actress Aaliyah and members of her entourage, including a hairdresser, her . If the snow flurry intensifies or the tater drying plume is solid and significant such that it's going to have to be descended through or the combined conditions will be imposing loss of visual for a period of time after having sighted the runway at MDA, a go around is the correct response.The accident pilot reportedly was not a first timer to BYI and for all of the NAVAID limitations you mentioned, a divert to Twin Falls (as had been done by whichever pilot was aboard on the day before the accident) was the choice to make if the visibility at the plant wasn't as reported by METAR during the two approach attempts. ADS-B does report a GPS altitude (although Flightaware does not show it), however this altitude is height above the ellipsoid, which can vary from true MSL by up to 150 feet depending where in the country you are, and this will also be different than the corrected barometric altitude shown on the pilot's altimeter due to a variety of factors that I won't go into here. It is easily found on the Internet. In all rear-bath floor plans, the 2023 model features a cathedral ceiling, which is a Newmar first. Discussion has returned to "the pilot was willfully continuing far below MDA of 4560 and couldn't see". ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 301345. So according to Jepp, the usable runway length is 3,787 feet. The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. The Cessna took off from nearby Berkeley County Airport just before 11 a.m., likely on it's way to Myrtle Beach. You clearly don't know how ASOS works. "Santa Monica, California Airport Commissioner Doris Minter, is beginning her third year as member and chairwoman of the city's five member board. Agree that the silos and chimney were not a factor; I did a Google maps street view and nothing is very high on that property. The FAA isn't in the habit of approving approaches that don't meet TERPS, so that is a given. ", No question that the yellow ladder has been displaced. "It's not a minimums bust if you have any of the required runway elements in sight before you descend. Warm Springs Police Chief Bill Elliott said the Warm Springs Dispatch Center received a report around 2:30 p.m. from Seattle Air Traffic Control of the possible plane crash in the area of the . I got my info from The NTSB preliminary report, WPR22FA151:A special automated weather report for BYI about the time of the accident reported 1 mile visibility in light snow and mist, broken layer at 2,300 ft above ground level (agl), overcast at 2,800 ft agl, temperature -3C, dew point temperature -5C, barometric pressure 29.96 inches of mercury. (The above information was offered to show reports from the BYI automatic weather system for the full period covering the initial descent decision through to the crash at 14:32 Z. A few days later, add 800 million to hurry it up. You have to wonder if the plant would be blamed so vigorously in its 11th year of 24 hour drum dryer operation if N928JP's pilot was someone else. The real-life nature of what transpired reveals a complete pilot disregard for a multitude of no-go factors and specifically communicated warnings.https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=13775462&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=CEN20FA022_CVR_Report_RELEASE-Rel.pdfDocket:https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=100636. Here's a better angle of the stack and ladder that were struck with the right wing where you can see the gash in the stack, and the damaged section of the ladder.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGStreet view from US Hwy 30 in June 2019 of same stackhttps://www.google.com/maps/@42.5508056,-113.7581799,3a,60y,310.62h,98.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXjHKzC_zNsmc7-AQYHeIAw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en. Someone who kept risking it that day in spite of the aircraft diverting to Twin Falls the day before, which suggests that the freight company could deal with handling the 30 mile location shift of freight delivery/pickup for the more sensible divert away from the impossible to overcome steam cloud.If it doesn't turn out to be the impossible PT-6 failure or impossible pilot PT-6 misoperation, then all that remains is pilot error from risking the impossible to overcome steam cloud that had just been flown over and had a good look at on the first approach, hoping against hope that it wouldn't be impossible to overcome this time.Letting the video channel guy assign the impossible to overcome steam cloud as the certain to be true cause has replaced his prior assignment of the "intentionally busted minimums" story to the minds of easily influenced followers. To get the actual indicated altitude, you need to correct it with the local altimeter setting. About 1 minute later, the controller asked the pilot if she had crossed the initial approach fix. For specific information, you may request a copy of . From the preliminary ntsb report:"According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. Brittney explored many hobbies throughout her life, including piano, athletics, fishing, and hunting. [1] [2] The cause of the accident is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). i blame it on the steam cloud. That's magical thinking to support a flawed theory about busted minimums.The earlier comment just said "short runway", no one said anything about not being able to land a Caravan on it. Tater plant has more political clout and money then a city owned airport. 0. According to reports, a single-engine Cessna 172 plane crashed on Thursday on the outskirts of Camp Kahdalea. but the sight picture she had of the runway end brought her into the steam cloud. Accident pilot: "I have to meet expectations and get this done"Interesting article reflecting on "completing the mission":https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/features/decision-making-for-pilots/. Although the intake air has to take a 180 degree turn (so called reverse flow) in order to enter the compressor section, it is possible to encounter sufficient ice and snow accumulation to cause a flameout. People have certain biases from who was flying in any accident that makes it easy to manipulate them. A pilot is a pilot and she made a mistake and hit something she knew was there. Add a loss of power situation and see how you come out. Excellent comment. Neither ASN nor the Flight Safety Foundation are responsible for the completeness or correctness of this information. With airlines short of pilots, why was this 30 year old college grad "COMMERCIAL PILOT Date of Issue: 1/3/2020" flying UPS 208 Grand Caravans? The KBYI AWOS observations already cited above all gave evidence of Icing Conditions of -SN (light snow) and below freezing temperatures. If anyone has photo/video evidence to the contrary, please share.https://youtu.be/fNIsBWj6nok?t=149, Excellent video, probably should cue up for 2:20 and tell folks to set speed to .25 because starting at 2:29 only allowed about two seconds of viewing before it's off to the races. A plane that crashed in Hampton last month had no mechanical issues before it went down, killing Blue Origin astronaut Glen de Vries and his Essex County flight . Looking at the #1,2 & 3 truck bays on the tater building, the roof height looks to be about 26 feet.This was the image used showing the truck bays:https://goo.gl/maps/xinz7GVPnjkDvJUp6The height AGL to top of stack (if the stack has not been changed from what is seen in the street view image) would be about 70 + 26, making it roughly 100 feet instead of 150. What people want to see is their own conjecture. Horrifying video captures California plane crash that killed doctor, UPS driver. Also, from a 2020 article:"Both Rex and Doris have been avid aviators since 1948. Look at the Blancolirio video on YT, he shows where they were in relation to the runway. I noticed Dan's poor comm skills also and the pilot's incorrect read backs.Then to prove how dangerous the LNAV +V approach is, they fly it high, seemingly to prove how the advisory glide slope dragged the 208 down in to the tower. Newer pilot here so my apologies for any ignorance. The point is there are numerous comments disparaging this accident pilot for busting mins despite not fully understanding the situation, and its unwise, unhelpful, and hurtful to many to spread uninformed none sense. Older Model Caravans have a history of crashes in icing conditions. 0:32. All 5 of his points are irrefuteable. It wasn't.See later comment down thread for time hacks/ADS-B correlation. Visitation will begin at 10:30 the morning of the funeral. To wit, check out this video at the 16:46 mark:https://youtu.be/aRN3RJaW618, Here's an even better view of what those steam stacks do on a morning with very similar weather conditions to the crash. He saw the KR comments detailing 2 statute mile visibility METAR trending 2.5 miles with lowest clouds well above MDA and also the correlated and mapped descent angle calculations.Tuber commenting by the mindless fans is praising him for apologizing in what was just his latest heartless disparaging of a lost pilot for views. 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