Hi Jackie. Youll get hints when we find information about your relatives. I just did DNA and found out through matches and family tree that Im related to Moytoy. I can day one thing I was born in Virginia from where the research shows Moytoy started , is it by chance it all comes together EXCATLY where my alive relatives are and born ? Thanks Amanda I appreciate your comments. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. I know that I am named after my great grandmother whos maiden name was Quatsie Catherine Copeland..and her father or my great great grandfather, was James Riley Copeland and I know he was a great leader in Oklahoma and was sought after for legal advice. My email is billallison60@gmail.com and I am very interested in any information concerning this. Also related to Pocahontas. Does anyone else connect to this tree, or have info on this line that they'd be willing to share? My 9g-Grandfather. It has been speculated that Elizabeth Watts had children (but apparently not married) with both Trader John Benge and Nathaniel Gist, although some researchers have expressed doubt regarding this story. Yes, because of them I have had a better life. 658 following. . John Jolly (Due): John Jolly was a Cherokee chief, (half?) I have information back to my great great grandmother and found her parents names once but haven't been able to find them since but the line went back to Pidgeon of Tellico and further back to Motoy(s). Yes, the Vanns held slaves, and it wasn't only four or five Cherokee families who did so. That would be part English. Watts also traveled to Pensacola to conclude a treaty with the Spanish governor of West Florida, Arturo O'Neill. Love finding your site! He seems to have been the son of Trader John Watts and the brother of John Watts . I am related to may of you! According to your site: "Later he was adopted by a man called Trader Tom Watts.,who was the friend and business partner of Thomas Pasmere Carpenter"How could Tom Watts have been a business partner of Thomas Carpenter? This is a magnificent summary of all the research youve done, Kathie! It is my humble opinion that they were wrong. finding family on the dawes rolls is hard, because a lot of names you may have pop up, but cherokee nation only accepts names between their 7 year requirement and they had to be living in OK . Phil T. PDT928@gmail.com. Follow. I have seen you on my tree links for years. Ancestry.com is a great place to find these things out especially when you weren't really looking for this. You should be trying to think of ways that your family can right the numerous wrongs they committed in the past. Does anyone have any information of direct descendants of Moytoy I or II that are on the Dawes Final Rolls? Although my family moved to Texas 30 yrs. The DNA test do not show tribe. We are from Texas.My mother had a olive complexion was small stature, quite person and she always told us she was indianBut she didn't know how.Ancestry.com The history is outstanding.I am very proud to be of indian desent. elizabeth watts cherokeecraftsman tool box lock rod elizabeth watts cherokee. She married Thomas Lawson Kendrick on Oct 17, 1850 in Cherokee, North Carolina. And all the deuce dents on both Sides the McGees and Vann was denided clames. Perhaps this can help you find what you are looking for. She married William David MC Daniel in 1752. DNA test results DO NOT EVER prove even a tribe, much less descendancy from Moytoy. They or you certainly do not have to be full blood Cherokees. The average property on Woods Rd was built in 1955 with an average home value of $97,277. I AM TOO. My family has known for some time and have searched to find our ancestors. Be proud of your real ancestors, not the ones you "feel in your hearts.". It is wonderful , because I have had an Indian Fedish ,for a Long time. I started to check out my matches and my second cousins on GEDMATCH. Henderson Rolls - 1835 - A listing of 16,000 Cherokees living in Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, & North Carolina to be removed to Oklahoma, per Treaty New Echota. Yes it would. In my line Tharp marries a female Vance. Watts's mother, Oousta, was a sister of Cherokee chiefs Attakullkulla Carpenter . If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls would that confirm blood lines? I am a direct descendant of Grasshopper and William David McDaniel. I love our families history.. Can any one confirm, deny, or suggest research that Mary Bluesky Cornstalk only had two children? There is no documentation to support this conclusion. There is an oral history through my paternal grandfather, William Isaiah Essary that he had Native American blood. What do you make of all this? I was beside myself with curiosity. The bio says , William Dorton Sr. became a man of local prominence, and a captain of the Russell Co. Is that a separate enrollment? Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! I had assumed that meant John Forked Tail WATTS. This comment has been removed by the author. There is a widespread belief that he was the son of the John Benge who lived with the Cherokee and his white wife. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. I have a few research partners from that line that validate this. Please, be our brothers and sisters that we have been denied. The English did not keep records of Cherokee - White marriages and they were not allowed to marry in any formal church of the Colonial period. here are my names below only on my moms dads side, only with moytoys ancestors and decendants. Does anyone know the name of trader Jim, big Jim,White green's mother shawano woman's father was? The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma. To broaden the results, try using our global search. Wren Williams (R-Stuart) Del. 2. The peace party included Bob McLemore, Tahlonteeskee, Captain Charley of Running Water, and Doublehead, as well as the white delegates. I am related to Chief Moytoy on my mothers side. When James Watts was born in 1748, in Virginia, British Colonial America, his father, John Watts, was 24 and his mother, Tali Wurteh Red Paint Wadi, was 38. Malachi is the son of Robert Parris and Penny Langley. WELL we all Know what that started. She gets her riches from her career as a journalist. Watts was one of the leaders of the Indian confederacy that failed in their 1792 attack of Buchanan's Station, though he was badly wounded and barely survived.[2]. My gggg grandfather is Old Hop-Standing Turkey- Kanagatuckco. Which should I try to gain membership in? Name: Fred Buckner, Phone number: (870) 257-5707, State: AR, City: Cherokee Village, Zip Code: 72529 and more information I am very proud of being part Cherokee when I was told I had Indian blood I started researching and keep coming up with only partial info and everyone says don't bother its not worth trying to get recognized with a tribe. There is a whole lot of those kind of things that get picked up & repeated over & over again. I do not know to put this together to prove it. Through various historical sources I can find numerous documented accounts of Moytoy of Tellico (who you call Moytoy II), but I find no references anywhere to his father. We need to connectI would love to talk with you. CVCC announces President's List for Fall 2022. On the way to Nashville, the army encountered and attacked a settlement known as Buchanan's Station but suffered serious casualties. MARTHA CONNER:1880 Census [CN]: Cooweescoowee, 4711902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3855, roll# 9293 as Martha Tucker1906-09 Miller roll: Afton, OK, ap# 24873, roll# 27399 as Martha TuckerBlood: 1/16 CherokeeBEULAH F TUCKER, b. Benge was a noted Cherokee Chief and raider of the upper Holston settlements. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? Remember the story of when James Vann caught a slave stealing food and burned him alive? The average lot size on Woods Rd is 15,499 ft2 and the average property tax is $868.7/yr. He was succeeded by Doublehead. My name is William Ray Allison, Jr. My dad's mother, Cora Waters, was enrolled in the Dawes Roll as was her mother, Maudie Condreay Waters, her mother, Barbara Allie Palone Condreay, and her mother, Mary Parris Palone. ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1751, at birth place, Alabama, to Chief John Trader Crunk Watts Watts (born Watts Cherokee) and WURTAGUA GI-YO-STI-KO-YO-HE Watts Cherokee (born Bird Clan). http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/21299310/person/19987329237, John Watts "Young Tassel", Cherokee Chief, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Watts_(Cherokee_chief), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Gist, https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Elizabeth_Watts_%2846%29, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License. This page was last modified 21:36, 17 April 2015. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. But trying to find of there is a roll number. According to my information. James Vann was shot and killed in 1809 by his former friend Saunders for another reason. Hey Mae West,Yes Amatoya Moytoy was his grandfather. Someone actually said Moytoy didn't exist?. Do you have some webpages to show what's right and wrong?Wado, Uhalvnii, I am horrified to see the lack of documentation on any of this!! I am trying to verify the name of John L Dean on the Dawes Rolls. 1 1 1 2 5 3 1 4 1 5: Nancy Ann Ivey. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. LDS records gives an Elizabeth Lewis as a wife of a John Benge. This is my Email address blustar957@yahoo.com . Sharon, I believe the way you do. this probably makes us distant cousins ronda essary. But, that is a whole other story as it turned out to be Choctaw. I am doing my best to make sure my tree is correct, but I would never make any promises.My mother's tree name is Thelma Roxanna James at the above link. Territory-era (1940s-1980s) This section lists notable professional wrestling promoters during the "Golden Age of Professional Wrestling" following the creation of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) in 1948.While most promoters operated specific wrestling "territories" as members of the NWA, a number of so-called "outlaw" promotions were also prominent during this period. Although the Cherokee elected a "national" government in 1794, complete with a Principal Chief and National Council, it had no real power. amatoya moytoy was a realitive of my grandmother. Amatoya Moytoy of Chota (pronounced mah-tie) was a Cherokee town chief of the early eighteenth century in the area of present-day Tennessee. Image at https://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr22-0706) John Watts father was a white trader and interpreter (also named John Watts) who came into the Cherokee Nation before 1752. Afterward, the group made a semi-permanent camp along Flint Creek (in the area of the future Unicoi County, Tennessee), harassing, raiding, and attacking white settlers in the surrounding countryside. His user name on Ancestry.com was Tahlequah. Family life. Cet interrupteur multifonction de rechange convient aux modles Wrangler JK, 07-18 Compass /Patriot MK, 08-12 Liberty KK, 08-10 Commander XK et 08-10 Grand Cherokee WK. family that started the story of Cornblossom & Yalloh Falls was a made up story. Lugie Watts Mackey. CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE TO KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COM. Elizabeth Watts in Florida. My 10g grandmother is Nancy Ward. Watts led his first major action of the Cherokee-American wars in 1786 against the forces of the State of Franklin over their incursions into the territory of the Overhill Cherokee. The one is Oklahoma is closed to new members (How can a nation be closed to legitimate members of the nation? He and Elizabeth had five children, William Jr., Moses, Sally, Edward, and a brother name unknown, who was killed by Indians in 1777 while scouting for the Militia in Powells Valley There is nothing in any records to suggest that William ever lived anywhere except Virginia or had any wives other than Elizabeth. I just discovered from ancestry.com that I am also a direct descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. Do you know if your Elizabeth had a sister named, Agnes Susannah, aka Sookie or could be Su-gi like her Mom?Drop me a some info please,AllenRemember4us@live.com, i too have lineage from the mcdaniel line but different people listed than you have after grasshopper/su-gi, its mary mcdaniel and then it dwindles down to me. number. I know grandfather is Tecumseh. I am researching my family tree and I came across the name ADAIR, and I decided to see where it went . He was known as a trader in interpreter. I believe he lived on reservation in Oklahoma. Used 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 4WD Black AWD 4Dr. It can only tell you if you have a percentage of native american DNA. Also her parents were William David MCDANIEL b: 1726 in TNMother: Granuaille(*), (**) Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER b: 1725 in Chota, TN.. Granuaille Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER's parents were Chief Kana-gatoga MOYTOY, CALLED HOPPER b: 1690 in Upper Hiwasee, ChotaMother: Su-Gi (CHEROKEE, WOLF CLAN) b: 1695 in Chota, TN. Vann grabbed one small boy and pulled him onto his saddle, but Doublehead killed the boy with an axe. Remember to wear your helmet, drink plenty of fluids, and enjoy yourself. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. I learned Chief Oconostota is my 9th Great Grandfather. My info staes that Old Hop and Nancy Moytoy were siblings. These men seem to have been separated by 100 years!? And they were born before registration so difficult. William F. Dorton [[Dorton-166]]: No source is listed for this claim. Hey bro, if you do your own research and study based truthful and factual info than you would see that isnt even real. Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life.". But you wouldn't know nothing about that, would you. Elizabeth Watts is an American Journalist currently working for KOAA News5 in Southern Colorado, as an anchor and reporter. otherwise, your out of luck. I have relatives on the Dawes rolls. Read some real history, as it was prevalent among the 5ct. About Elizabeth "Wurte" Watts . Rodney Willett (D-Henrico) Del. I am of Moytoy decent on my mother's father's side. On the way, the Cherokee leaders were discussing among themselves whether to kill all the residents of the settlement, or just the men. according to the information in the tree Sookie Grass Hopper Moytoy was the mother of Elizabeth and had married William David McDaniel. Ancestry .com is a fantastic resource; but so many of my cousins lock their trees, and my eyes are failing me; the Dawes rolls are not easy to use. I can document the link to both husbands, but cannot document her child with Thomas Ayres., although men who have spent their lives writing and researching the Cherokee in SC and GA, told me that they had always thought that what I have is correct, but that I would never prove it. Born in Cherokee Nation East, Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea. Sharon, I am doing our family research into a line that I believe intersects with the one you are writing about here. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. John Riley. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. She is from United Kingdom. Love this, thank you for writing it. There is no single roll of those who participated in the 1838 forced removal known as the Trail of Tears. About* Elizabeth Watts, LMSW is a social worker in Herkimer, NY. How many slaves did your family own? I don't know anything about the other tribes, but if you have a relative on the Dawes Roll you can be enrolled as a Western Cherokee. I can see why but I totally look Indian and am Cherokee, Choctaw, Shawnee. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). The council signed the Treaty of Tellico Blockhouse in November, officially ending hostilities with the US. The only reply I got was from his wife who gave me his direct email and still no reply. She married a George Booker. My information shows: Nancy Ward -- Tame Doe Raven -- Nancy Moytoy -- Chief Amatoya Moytoy. I was only four years old when my parents came to the Indian Territory and I am now ninety-three years old. Robert Due [ [Due-74]]: No . I am hoping to find any records of John Ward (my great grandfather) and his wife Emma. The Cherokee warriors proceeded against White's Fort (modern day Knoxville, Tennessee), where they were repulsed. . Elizabeth Watts Schrack. They had 11 children: Aley Cherokee Indian Evans (born Watts), Elizabeth WATTS and 9 other children. At about this time, Watts moved his base of operations to Willstown (Cherokee town), in what is now Alabama. I had been told through my family history we were "par" Cherokee and I knew the line it came from. My last post. Wow I love you, thank you,and would you give me more insight of my relatives the Moytoy , from Nikitie father and mother and any brothers and sisters showing any proof of Moytoy children, please I just want insight and see of any proof , thank youMy email is starrbellababby@yahoo.com, Not only are you a historical revisionist, but also a typical yoneg NDN wannabe spewing delusional lies. History can't be copyrighted. It is also sufficient information to become a tribe member of the Western Cherokees. William is a well-documented Virginian, DAR patriot # A033306, who left his property to his wife Elizabeth and sons including Moses (will is transcribed on his Wikitree profile). The following students who have a grade point average of 3.8 to 4.0 were recognized: If anyone is interested in exchanging family info please contact me @ walkersarehome@yahoo.com. Elizabeth Watts was the daughter of Isaac Watts and Sarah Lowdermilk of Iredell county, North Carolina. So, I have decided to write it just like I did to them, and include their emails in the book so at least the information is there! please advise if anyone has answered this. I look forward to your textthank you so much and good luck to you all who are on a quest for documenting facts. Which ties me to Chief Cornstalk "Peter I" and Moytoy II of Tellico. Yes it does confirm Cherokee Blood lines. I'm a descendent of stalking turkey. She left Elijah, taking "little Nancy" with her, then became the 3rd wife of Tecumseh. Obediah Martin Benge: He was a white man, a well-documented Revolutionary War soldier, the son of a white woman named Elizabeth Lewis(?) This does get confusing. With all this he managed to double the number of slaves that he owned (over 200) and he relocated all of them west during the Trail of Tears via riverboats. People of my people, Blood of my blood, We are all earths children. If the family did not originate from Plymouth Devonshire England then where??? My grandfather founded the Cherokee Elders Council in 1996. I found on one person's tree in Ancestry.com that Phaerba Ammons was daughter of Phoebe Eseentrino which was daughter of Rebecca C Indian, daughter of Great Eagle can annyone confirm this or say it is not true can't find any information. I also am from Moytoy and the Copelands. As with most early Cherokee women she is only described in terms of her relationship to others. 3. John Watts (or Kunokeski ), also known as Young Tassel, was one of the leaders of the Chickamauga Cherokee (or "Lower Cherokee") during the Cherokee-American wars. I wonder, Cat, have you taken a DNA Test? I hope you are wrong!! Chief Moytoy of Tellico 1687 - 1741 My 8g Grand U A Indian Trail From Amatoya Moytoy to My Mother. Starting as a child at the Anthony School and Forest Park, and lacing in Lorene Lloyd McAfee Ballet, she followed through Pulaski Heights School and Hall High . "Chickamauga Cherokee Wars (1776-1794) - part 7 of 9", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Watts_(Cherokee_chief)&oldid=1130442447, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. He and Elizabeth had five children, William Jr., Moses, Sally, Edward, and a brother name unknown, who was killed by Indians in 1777 while scouting for the Militia in Powells Valley There is nothing in any records to suggest that William ever lived anywhere except Virginia or had any wives other than Elizabeth. . What a beautiful, interesting and insightful article! Mahaley Parris #1225 on the Dawes Rolls. There is a widespread belief that he was the son of the John Benge who lived with the Cherokee and his white wife. May I suggest research and study the factual truth instead of false, fictional and fraudulent fantasies and fairytales from fairyland and wonderland. I am very interested in getting the dawes final rolls number..I have been searching for this informationI am also trying to figure out the name of the unknown cheorkee son of moytoyII father of Ani Waya..email is missourigirl.lc@gmail.com, I am wanting help trying to find Jenni ani WiYa father, he is known as the unknown cherokee his father is Moytoy II..Does anyone have the dawes#..I am thinked to the Westbrook and Fogles? 4. #2 since so far back and DNA didn't show native Indian can I still apply? My Grandmother's is named Ethel May (Carpenter ) Fisher . Can we clean up the profile of "Wurteh Watts" ? This thread says Robert is the son of Prachy, the son of A-nu-we-gi Moytoy, the son of Moytoy, the son of A-ma-do-ya. Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com. It is McDaniel and Suki, Daughter Rachel her Husband Henry Chambers, Tatum married Chamber's Daughter, Tatums Daughter marries Tharp. Tail Sixkiller. The family trees are just posted by folks like you & me. Watts was born in Norwich and attended Norwich High School for Girls. I'm glad to hear someone has a DNA match you are related to Moytoy ,I started to give up hope, some articles I read was making it seem like Moytoy didn't exist and there was no evidence of any Moytoy, could you please please send me what you have, anything about Moytoy, please my email is Starrbellababby@yahoo.com. obviously I can only go by information in others trees. I already consider myself Cherokee, but would love to officially sign up. hi, I noticed your post was from over a year ago, but I just read it and wanted to check in with you regarding the linkage of Nancy Ward -- Catherine McDaniel -- Granny Hopper -- Old Hop -- Chief Moytoy. I had heard family rumors that we were descended from Fork Tail WATTS. With no cross checking or error corrections etc. White Wing's son Richard Adkins is my 5th gr-grandfather. Sharon Starr would you please send me what you got so I can put it in my records, pleaseAt my email, starrbwllababby@yahoo.com. It is wonderful, if you know your family heritage or have stories of generations that came before you. Husband's Name: William Pleasant WATTS (AFN:1T6C-XW9) Born: Abt 1815/1820: Place: Cherokee Nation, East, Native America: Married: Abt 1830: Place: Cherokee Nation . As with most early Cherokee women, almost nothing is known of the woman called "Wurteh Watts," the mother of Bob "The Bench" Benge. I am descended through Moytoy the Pigeon, Willenawah Great Eagle, Chief Doublehead, Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu, Nannie Riley. Fred Fuchs: I am wondering if Ernest Essary might be my great uncle. John "Old Forked Tongue" Watts (1/2 Blood Cherokee). I have arched on ancestry.com that links it all. My 5x great grandfather was Henry ( Tarle Skawee) Mcgee. >k.c. You are so right Hannah. ronda essary, I am not sure what you mean how far back.? I too am a descendant of Moytoy (he would be 8th grandfather). Elizabeth Judd was the daugther of Rowland Judd and Robin Moytoy/Cherokee. Find Elizabeth Watts's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. So, this character named Thomas Pasmere Corn Planter Carpenter was born in 1607 England and came over here and met a Shawnee woman named Pride somewhere around Jamestown, Virginia, took her back to England where they got married in 1553 and had two children together naming their son Trader and their daughter Pride, thus starting the Cherokee tribe. As someone also doing research, I find your story quite interesting. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. Charles Washington Starr. What better job than working with the Indians. William Ray Allison, Jr - that should give you some help in your search. All the info I have matches, and I learned even more of the story. He was a British interpreter for the Cherokees at Fort Loudoun (S.C.) in 1758 and at Augusta in 1763, and continued to fill that position at the 1770 treaty . Watts was seriously wounded, and Siksika (known as "The Shawnee Warrior," and an older brother of Tecumseh)); Tahlonteeskee (also called Talotiskee of the Broken Arrow, a Muscogee warrior); Little Owl (a brother of Dragging Canoe); and Pumpkin Boy (a brother of Doublehead), all died in the encounter.[4]. Born in Cherokee Nation East, Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea. Judyann Kelley Townsend Billy Gene Kelley your father Susie Marie Kelley his mother Viola Ellsworth roberts her mother Violetta Elizabeth Clubb her mother John Thomas Brown her father Isham "Isom" Alexander Brown his father Isham Alexander "Cherokee Chief Sawney" Brown his father Naky ( Sarah Canoe ) Betesy Brown his mother Tai Ya Gansi Ni (Ts-yu-gns-n) Dragging Dragging Canoe" (Tatsi), Principal Chief Tatsi her father Attakullakulla (Little Carpenter) Onacona his father Amatoya Moytoy his father. We have estimated Elizabeth Watts's net worth , money, salary, income, and assets. Grateful for all posts and terribly fascinated by their contents. One of my Dad's cousins applied for tribal membership and received it. He intended to attack Knoxville. Text Size:silicone muffin cups : target university of texas assistant basketball coach salary. More About WURTEH WATTS: Blood: Half Blood Cherokee. It runs on my dads side running through the Morgans. 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