Sorry for the long explanation, these two are really complicated. That sums everything up, pretty convincing. I don't even need to read ur entire post "he got angrier and angrier" yep. Wei Wuxian shifted foot to foot, Lil' Apple's reigns in hand. [47], Jiang Cheng strikes Jin Ling for crying out for Jin Guangyao to run. Or if he were then we didnt see enough development to lead to that. Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Yilin Patriarch Wei Wuxian died in the battle with three biggest clans happened in No Night City. MDZS Q He's gonna need some time to process that shit. [6], At the training, Jiang Cheng warns Wei Wuxian not to start trouble after noticing that the dangerous Wen Zhuliu guards their pompous leader, Wen Chao. But I can say, at the end, he didn't hate him as much as he did before. Wen Ning serves as a representation of a force of good in life, and in death became a puppet to a friend & master who abused his reanimated body. He also took Wei Wuxian under his care as his ward, raising him alongside his own children. I think that the "revived Wei Wuxian" was suposed to be different, not just because he died once, but because it is the first time we see the adult version of him that is not under the influence of the stygian seal and dark energies. The Untamed (TV series) - Wikipedia This then proceeded to be the only time they talked about their feelings lmao sure maybe they wont talk about the sacrifices theyve made for the other person, thats consistent with their characters, but really? Very interesting! [13], Jiang Cheng is taken back to the Lotus Pier, where Wen Chao has him tortured and beaten. Jiang Yanli (, Jing Ynl) was the elder sister of Jiang Cheng and the elder sworn sister of Wei Wuxian. [Mo Dao Zu Shi] Interview With The Author - NEET's Works ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} 7.6 (175) Rate. I agree that WWX shouldnt have gone full dark and angsty but I did want those feelings of his to be explored more, Im disappointed that the author left so much of that up to readers interpretation. He has no sworn brotherhood with ANY other sect, meanwhile the Gusu Lan, Qinghe Nie and Lanling Jin do. Anyone felt disappointed by the second half of the novel? He gives her a red comb that she accepts,[54] and after the Sunshot Campaign begins, offers to marry her if she will defect from the Qishan Wen Clan. His escape, however, is interrupted by the arrival of the Fierce Corpse of Nie Mingjue. JC is a very realistic and relatable personality, which means he's complicated and his emotions aren't all that straightforward. I finished the novel because I wanted to know what happens (and because I want to see weiying and jiangcheng talk shit out WHICH THEY DONT OMFG GUYS PLS) but yea. Jiang cheng and wei wuxian's complicated relationship; Summary. This would have also had to be censored. After JYL and Jin ZiXuan died, JC was no longer able to accept WWX and fully turned on him. Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation Season 2 Episode 4 [36], Jiang Cheng sarcastically greets Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji outside Golden Carp Tower. It would be hard to not resent WWX after all that, and theres definitely some complex emotions between the two of them. Am I not supposed to hate you? theres many theories. For the same reason, he takes a sword cut for WWX, brings him back his dizi, and chooses to let WWX walk away and not stop him or burden him with the knowledge that the reason he lost his core was to save WWX in the first place. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! When Wei Wuxian (Xiao Zhan) is adopted by Jiang Fengmian (Lu Jiangmin), Jiang Cheng becomes Wei Wuxian's new brother. But nope these details were all skipped, and the tortured, guilty, angry side of wei ying is never really explored except for that one time he tortured the wen family and took revenge (which was so so good). After seeing that Wei Wuxian is determined to restore the consciousness of Wen Ning's Fierce Corpse, he and Wei Wuxian quarrel more, until Wei Wuxian insists on leaving the Yunmeng Jiang Clan to protect them from trouble. Because WWX gave his golden core to JC without a doubt, without questioning a thing. Its confusing because the animation and drama do not seem to follow the novel strictly. I can't point Sandu at that old friend anymore. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! [33] But when Jin Ling is nearly killed by the Heavenly Maiden, Jiang Cheng berates him for not calling for help. Wi Yng | Wi Wxin Deserves Love - Works | Archive of Our Own WWX thinks if LWJ continues to hold on, they will both fall so he uses that moment to rip his arm out of LWJ's grip. Wei Ying also explained in the anime last episode S3 that even Madame Yu was strict, she never do anything that would harm WWX, same like how JC do to WWX. No. Jiang Yanli also makes lotus root pork ribs soup for Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian. As Wei Wuxian gains enough mental strength to begin stopping the corpses, Jiang Yanli pushes him suddenly out of the way; taking a sword to the throat, she dies to save Wei Wuxian. So the way he behaves at the end, saying "can't I hate you" and "why are you so awesome", etc is a direct result of (a) spending 13 years thinking WWX CHOSE to keep using demonic cultivation for fun and profit until it killed JZX, JYL, thousands of cultivators and then WWX himself, and trying to hate him for that, and (b) he thinks of the core transfer the way Wen Ning talks about it: as WWX being so superior to him and as proof that JC is a clown and worthless. Did Wei Wuxian kill himself? (Tw: suicide.) : r/MoDaoZuShi - reddit He was especially ticked off when his sister Jiang Yanli was killed when trying to protect Wei Wuxian, the result of which left him with no blood relatives anymore. Not even lan zhan could reach his spirit. Obviously Madame Yu is a huge contributor of friction - what with physically dragging Jiang Cheng between her and He seemed quite shook that it did nothing, iirc. [16], Jiang Cheng uses Zidian to strangle Wen Zhuliu and defends Wei Wuxian from the appalled Lan Wangji. That was the assumption of the people, basically, a rumor so it is not something to be trusted. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! Both leave the duel cursing each other. Yes. Media [31], During this time, he also co-parents the orphaned Jin Ling alongside Jin Guangyao. [30], Jiang Cheng is shocked and enraged to discover that "Mo Xuanyu" has managed to summon Wen Ning. To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. Can I not hate you?! As a child, Jiang Cheng has three puppies named "Jasmine," "Princess," and "Love." However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent . I think he probably hated WWX for a while, at the height of their enmity after JYL died. "Chen Qing Ling" Why did Wei Wuxian kill his senior sister? Was it a Point is, I think, he knew the other dudes he was torturing were not WWX, so he just used them as dummies for his little anger problems, and when he saw WWX resurrected and shameless ofc he just wanted to release his anger, that's why he patted him gently on the back with Zidian. However, when Jin Guangyao implies that he has long known of the golden core transfer, Jiang Cheng's composure slips. Live-Action Actor (Probably the price of destroying the Stygian Amulet). This might have gotten a bit off topic, but I guess my opinion would be just that JC wouldn't accept WWXs death, bcs he believed WWX has something to do, as in apologise to him on his knees and make him feel better and have a scape goat again Ehhh Yanli, why did u have to be an idiot and die Who is gonna make the lotus and disaster boy talk to each other without u . [44], Jin Ling runs away from Lotus Pier to seek Wei Wuxian, and Jiang Cheng follows to seek his nephew. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works [14], Although Jiang Cheng believes he really has met Baoshan Sanren and that his core has been restored, the matter is actually an elaborate plot constructed by Wei Wuxian. After certain events, even though he did originally want to keep to hating Wei Wu Xian and blaming him for everything - when the big bad appeared and more things were revealed, Jiang Cheng tried to shift the blame to said villain. In the live action, it looked like LWJ might get hurt because JC couldn't bring it upon himself to actually stab and end WWX. It's been fifty-five years since Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian's marriage. Did Wei WuXian and his brother Jiang Cheng - Goodreads But his arm was injured and perhaps it was supposed to mean that WWX was afraid LWJ would also be harmed? Two ghostly figures dancing in the distance by BlueLion20. Even during the period he was apparently hurting demonic cultivators, that desperation is born from love, need and longing, not hate. When it comes to how the novel addresses WWX's darker emotions, part of me wonders if there are likecontextual or cultural things that get lost in translation? In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner, Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. This is what wei wuxian meant when he said a soul that no longer wants to be in this world. in the novel and donghua, wwx destroyed the stygian seal just before he died, the seal that held control over the corpses. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} No Archive Warnings Apply; Ln Zhn | Ln Wngj/Wi Yng | Wi Wxin; Ln Yun | Ln Szhu & Wi Yng | Wi Wxin & Wn Nng | Wn Qingln & Wn JC is also the youngest Sect Leader of the time, technically untested. JC had almost no time at all to process this information by the time they met at the temple. [1], This, along with the fact that Jiang Fengmian holds Wei Wuxian his first night at Lotus Pier, causes Jiang Cheng to initially resent Wei Wuxian. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I assume is to save time as it is not possible to cover the whole book in 35 episodes (including season 3, the final season). When Wen Ning asked WWX about Jiang Cheng, he said it wasn't JC who killed him. He then reveals that he has brought Wei Wuxian's flute Chenqing and tosses it to him. And finally, WWX dies in the Burial Mound siege. "[45] However, eventually Jiang Cheng begins to weep bitterly that Wei Wuxian had not told him. He begins to capture all cultivators whom he suspects are possessed by the soul of Wei Wuxian, taking them back to Lotus Pier for torture. Guo Haoran (animation)Gao Shang (animation - child)Peng Yao (audio drama)Zhao Xiaojiang (audio drama - child)Wang Kai (web series) JC knows WWX would never, but the rest don't. "Mo Dao Zu Shi" The Land of Death (TV Episode 2018) - IMDb Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian's relationship - MyAnimeList.net [45], Jiang Cheng then turns his anger towards Jin Guangyao, especially after Jin Guangyao admits he had sent Jin Zixuan to the confrontation on Qiongqi Path, although Jin Guangyao maintains that he had not intended for Wei Wuxian to kill Jin Zixuan. The animation changes the storyline quite alot as things take place in different places. Personal Information This could be MXTX being very subtle and leaving readers room to interpret, or it could just not be what she wanted to focus on. The book also mentioned that the 4 clans had tried to summon his soul after he died, but he did not respond. Previously:Qinghen. Did Wei Wuxian die at the end? - TimesMojo Lan Wangji said that he knew that Wei Wuxian didn't get killed by his own ghost army and asked Wei Wuxian how did he die. Season 1. More helpful answer: From JC's POV, WWX did a lot to personally betray him: his actions stirred the wrath of the Wen Sect leading to the death of his parents and Sect. [1], Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian both attend the Cloud Recesses to learn from Lan Qiren. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works "Shush. Did his actions make it seem like he hated him? The golden core reveal hits him so hard, imo, because it shifts his perspective and forces him to start seeing evens from WWX's eyes, not just his own. [36], When Qin Su kills herself in the secret treasure room of Golden Carp Tower, Jiang Cheng angrily demands an explanation. Wei Ying states this repeatedly to.someone lol Soooo if he did indeed lose the will to live and took measures to ensure his death, or was just satisfied with being dead, how was he summoned back? 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According to Wen Chao, Jiang Cheng screamed and pled for his core, but his captors did not care. [8], Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji, remain trapped in the cave. (Topic ID: 1803424) It should have been a simple story with a happy ending. I got different feelings about those things in the different media adaptations. Lan Wangji: In the Cloud Recesses flashback, Nie Huaisang says that he is the same age as Wei Wuxian and himself, which would be 15. No "Do you need any help, or just some silent company?" at the time Wen Ning left thinking to WWX and attacked everyone his master perceived as a threat. Bait-and-Switch: When Jiang Fengmian first appeared, the first thing he did was firmly tell Wei Wuxian to kneel properly (as part of his punishment for punching Jin Zixuan), and he gave Jiang Cheng a stern look when the latter protested to his suggestion to dissolve Jiang Yanli's engagement. After finding everything out its clear he wouldnt have wanted to fight anymore because he had nothing left to fight for and he only ever fought for others anyway, never himself, yet everyone he knew or would fight for turned against him. [14], Wen Ning aids Wei Wuxian's rescue of Jiang Cheng, taking both fugitives to hide with his sister Wen Qing in Yiling. 'The Untamed': Here's why Wen Ning is the real tragic hero After Xiao Xingchen found out that he was tricked by Yang into killing his own best friend, Xiao slit his own throat. :(. Thanks for your reply and dont apologize, your English is perfect :). He hates himself for not living up to what his mother wanted him to be what he thinks his father wanted, he hates himself for not being able to be what WWX represents. [24], He shouts at Wei Wuxian to stop the corpses from attacking her, but realizes that Wei Wuxian seems to struggle to maintain control. So does jiang cheng hate or love wei wuxian - reddit Before they can attack, the person behind the talisman approaches, revealing himself to be Wei Wuxian. Wei Ying | Wiki | Founder of Diabolism Amino
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